How To Gut Ccv Filter
- #1
Hi All,
I am in the process of sourcing parts to carry out a service on my D4 225 engine. I have managed to get all of the chief filters at a more reasonable price, by buying non OE, but equivalent ones. I am having a hard fourth dimension in accepting the bribe that is being asked for the Volvo Penta Creepo case Breather Filter D4 D6 D9 3584145. Most suppliers want in the region of £75-£95 for this filter. (It doesn't await every bit its fabricated from gold) Anybody got a link to a aftermarket ane at a more reasonable price. Not maxim I would, just has anybody ever cleaned the said filter and re-used?
Thanks in advance Steve
- #2
Hi All,
I am in the procedure of sourcing parts to behave out a service on my D4 225 engine. I have managed to get all of the main filters at a more reasonable price, by buying non OE, only equivalent ones. I am having a hard time in accepting the bribe that is existence asked for the Volvo Penta Crank case Breather Filter D4 D6 D9 3584145. Most suppliers want in the region of £75-£95 for this filter. (It doesn't look as its fabricated from gold) Anybody got a link to a aftermarket one at a more than reasonable price. Not proverb I would, but has anybody ever cleaned the said filter and re-used?
Thanks in advance Steve
Do not try and make clean it, it's there for a purpose, to clean and split the crankcase fumes from fume particles back into a liquid then returned to the sump. There are Chinese copies out there at half the price but beware.
It never ceases to amaze me why owners effort and save a few quid when they have tens of thousands invested in a boat.
Brand your own choice on filters, brand sure your oil filters have the correct anti bleed valves fitted and the fuel filters are the correct micron and menstruum rating.
Lastly, do you know for case how much a new CP pump is and injectors? Likewise there is no rebuild kit for the D range motor, its a short block and starts at above 10k plus.
- #3
I find the cheapest fashion to buy the main filters etc is to but buy the service kit, which for the D6 includes the two oil filters, the secondary fuel filter, the air filter, impeller and crankcase sabbatical filter. I paid well-nigh £200 per engine for this kit earlier this twelvemonth.
- #4
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Where to buy this service kit, on line or from the Volvo dealers? Thanks.
- #five
I bought mine from my local dealer.
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Hi Paul.
I was told by a Volvo Main Dealer Engineer to make clean the crankcase filter in clean Diesel, every bit they do !!! Obviously not a good thought and then.
Should these filters be changed annually?
Thanks
Keith
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- #vii
I used to buy my breather filters from Aquapart, (now Watercraft Services?) considerably cheaper and did the job perfectly well.
Not certain if yours has the same spiral-on perforated bean can blazon sabbatical as my early Volvo.
My manual says change annually just that gets oppressively expensive. I now modify them when they beginning to stink.
- #eight
you can buy this kit from keypart near £340 including oil, i take d4 260 yous simply have to grin and blank it new engine £25,000 plus non worth the risk in my opinion.
- #9
Paul is exactly right (as usual) people accept a motor the price of an average family car and baulk at paying three or 4 hundred quid a year for service parts, it but doesn't add up.
- #10
Thank you all for the replies. I am non baulking or anything other wise. I like a lot of people, work very hard to own and run the boat of our dreams. I but couldn't and still cannot come across how Volvo can charge so much for a very basic filter.
- #eleven
Do not try and clean it, it'due south there for a purpose, to clean and divide the crankcase fumes from smoke particles back into a liquid and so returned to the sump. There are Chinese copies out in that location at half the toll simply beware.
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To exist honest, with the reliability of the ancillary VP equipment, I would experience no compunction about using non VP parts.
Why not send the particulates (smoke) and crankcase fumes directly into the exhaust or into an actress underwater outlet? A cheap free choice. It's not like the diesel particulates will be airborne and carcinogenic ( perchance to fish ?) similar on "muddied" road diesels when their DPF is removed
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- #12
To be honest, with the reliability of the ancillary VP equipment, I would feel no compunction about using non VP parts.
Why not send the particulates (smoke) and crankcase fumes directly into the frazzle or into an extra underwater outlet? A cheap free option. It's non similar the diesel particulates will be airborne and carcinogenic ( mayhap to fish ?) similar on "dirty" route diesels when their DPF is removed
Somehow I just don't think volvopenta would be stupid plenty to do this as there engines would not meet any standards relating to emissions , the idea of having saltwater into the crankcase sounds a peachy idea, peradventure you could propose this to the design dept at Southampton boatshow. I take seen many sometime fords exercise this with a sabbatical pipe from the rocker embrace to a skin plumbing fixtures, the oil slick down the side of the hull looks but groovy!
- #13
Volvo Penta stupid ? Like using untinned wire for underwater electrical components? Unthinkable ( only true I'1000 afraid).).
Why would saltwater get into the crankcase ? Surely it'southward force per unit area in the crankcase above atmospheric pressure that causes "fumes" to be generated that demand to be handled somehow ? Saltwater obeys the laws of physics, even Volvo Penta engines accept to, if the pressure in a crankcase is college that the force per unit area it is under, then salt h2o won't go in in that location.
Even since the 1960s road vehicles had PCV valves, cheap elementary mechanical things that immune engines to burn down excessive crankcase fumes My 2004 V8 Volvo Penta had 1, but that was a GM engine of class. Why non use a condenser/ catch tank to trap those fumes/ condense the oil for ultimate environmentally condom disposal. Information technology's not a new idea.
Why wouldn't a catch tank work? Or is it that modernistic diesel engines accept and so much piston ring blow by/ crankcase pressure that they would exist overwhelmed ?
- #14
Crankcase filters catch mist from combustion/crankcase generated fumes,Yachtboatparts.com sell them--
http://www.yachtboatparts.com/volvo-penta-crank-case-breather-filter-d4-d6-d9-3584145-1490-p.asp
and I tin can confirm that they are the same filter that volvo put in their box... not just a re-create only from the same manufacturer/supplier, but at but £29.99 rather than Volvo Penta's £94.56
I accept a D6 that has washed approx 4400 hours and I have bought filters from these guys for the terminal three years and the not genuine parts they supply seems to last just as long equally the Genuine parts..(if not longer).. They wouldn't sell me a non genuine oil filter because they said that although in that location is 1 available they were not totally happy with it then only offer the 18-carat filter.... They told me that they also run a marine engineering concern and their volvo trained engineers have tried and tested all the not genuine products before they sell them on the website.
- #fifteen
Thank you Humphrey,
Great info cheers Steve
- #16
Crankcase filters catch mist from combustion/crankcase generated fumes,Yachtboatparts.com sell them--
http://www.yachtboatparts.com/volvo-penta-crank-case-breather-filter-d4-d6-d9-3584145-1490-p.asp
and I can confirm that they are the aforementioned filter that volvo put in their box... non just a copy but from the same manufacturer/supplier, simply at merely £29.99 rather than Volvo Penta's £94.56
I have a D6 that has done approx 4400 hours and I have bought filters from these guys for the last three years and the non 18-carat parts they supply seems to last merely as long as the Genuine parts..(if non longer).. They wouldn't sell me a non genuine oil filter because they said that although at that place is one bachelor they were not totally happy with it and then only offer the genuine filter.... They told me that they as well run a marine applied science business and their volvo trained engineers have tried and tested all the non 18-carat products earlier they sell them on the website.
That'southward really skilful information, thanks. Volvo Pentas mark upwards seems excessively greedy. I know for a fact their United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland dealers discount their prices by at least 23% when they supply a marine mechanic compared to the prices they charge Joe public, those mechanics then charges full VP list price to their customer or insurance company if it's a claim. Plus, VP try to prevent admission to their US parts website from exterior the United states, as the prices they sell at there are then much lower than fifty-fifty discount prices in the residuum of the world.
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- #17
Crankcase filters take hold of mist from combustion/crankcase generated fumes,Yachtboatparts.com sell them--
http://www.yachtboatparts.com/volvo-penta-crank-instance-breather-filter-d4-d6-d9-3584145-1490-p.asp
and I tin can confirm that they are the aforementioned filter that volvo put in their box... non just a copy but from the same manufacturer/supplier, but at only £29.99 rather than Volvo Penta's £94.56
I accept a D6 that has done approx 4400 hours and I have bought filters from these guys for the terminal three years and the non genuine parts they supply seems to last but as long as the Genuine parts..(if not longer).. They wouldn't sell me a non genuine oil filter because they said that although there is one available they were not totally happy with it so merely offer the genuine filter.... They told me that they also run a marine engineering science business and their volvo trained engineers have tried and tested all the non genuine products earlier they sell them on the website.
Slight thread migrate - I get my Volvo parts from a non VP franchised marine engineering firm in Poole. I went forth recently for a spare impellor expecting to pay approx. £38 for a Volvo one, and they supplied a CEF (?)-made in Italy (?) for about £25. In the past they have only sold me 18-carat oil and fuel filters. I will need to replace creepo case filter before long so volition check out what make they supply.
- #eighteen
Crankcase filters catch mist from combustion/crankcase generated fumes,Yachtboatparts.com sell them--
http://www.yachtboatparts.com/volvo-penta-crank-case-sabbatical-filter-d4-d6-d9-3584145-1490-p.asp
and I can ostend that they are the aforementioned filter that volvo put in their box... not just a copy only from the same manufacturer/supplier, but at simply £29.99 rather than Volvo Penta's £94.56
I have a D6 that has done approx 4400 hours and I take bought filters from these guys for the final 3 years and the non genuine parts they supply seems to last just every bit long as the Genuine parts..(if not longer).. They wouldn't sell me a non 18-carat oil filter because they said that although in that location is ane available they were non totally happy with it so just offering the 18-carat filter.... They told me that they also run a marine engineering business concern and their volvo trained engineers take tried and tested all the non genuine products before they sell them on the website.
I now hear that Mann Hummel (Great britain) Ltd manufacture the crankcase filters for Volvo and they are called Provent 200 - the inserts office no is LC5001-two .
Does anyone know who manufacturers the D series air filter for Volvo -part no 21702999 - and what vehicle information technology fits.?
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I will go along to use VP dealers & parts, then if the lumps fail as in another thread running at the moment, at least I may have some comeback.
- #20
I doubt you'll have whatever come back, but agree with your sentiments.
Equally Volvopaul says , we take tens of thousands invested in our boats, why save £13 on an impeller?
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